Vermilion Pt. 2

Album: Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses (2004)
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  • A theme of the album Volume 3: The Subliminal Verses is Corey Taylor apologizing to his fans. In Slipknot's albums, the key focus is a girl. In Volume 3, he tells his fans that the girl he has been singing about and doing all these horrible things to, wasn't real - he made her up! In this song, he says, "She isn't real!" He never tells you directly that she was a lie, hence "The subliminal verses." >>
    Suggestion credit:
    Rhianna - Arlington, TX
  • "Vermilion Pt. 2" is believed to be about an unrequited love interest from the first part of "Vermilion." Part 2 is much softer, and the video hints that the woman in the first video is now dead. >>
    Suggestion credit:
    Christian - Linden, NJ

Comments: 29

  • Blank from Somewhere@Chris from Spijkenisse, Netherlands - Which interview, do you have a link?
  • Gman from HullI am late to this post but always been a fan I definitely think there is a hidden meaning but it's made in a way the listeners can interpret it to their own thoughts and feelings that's what makes it really good I find that a lot of good writers do this
  • Sinfulkarma from GaShari from Idaho's threory makes a lot of sense, especially when we stop and remember one of their music videos for a different song they wrote and Corey is in and cross dresses....


    Mind blown? Mine is.
  • Jim from Missouri Five minutes ago I would have agreed with the prevailing theory of a love he cannot have. Then I read Shari from Meridian, Idaho's theory and I had never considered a closet cross dresser or a male that identifies as a female. I'm not sure why, but as soon as I read it, I felt that she nailed it! Awesome insight Shari from Meridian, Idaho!
  • Robb from Denver Colorado"That song was on a demo that Paul [Gray, bassist] and Joey [Jordison, drummer] put together. For some reason, as soon as I heard it, all I could see was the colour red. I love the idea of creating a world from the standpoint of a stalker. I was trying to recreate that dark urgency and desperate need. Anyone who's ever had that jealous rage knows what that feeling is." – Corey Taylor
  • Robb from Denver Colorado"The differences (between the two tracks) are subtle — 'Vermilion Pt. 1' is about the enrapturing, the buildup, the anticipation and the neurosis," says Taylor.[11] "'Part 2' is the aftermath, the pieces that have to be picked up later, and maybe the guilt of having lived through it"
  • Shari from Meridian, IdahoI was listening to this song last night and honestly I have listened to it hundreds of times before. I think it is relaxing and soothing to the soul. But last night I heard it different. So I have a very good friend who is a cross dresser (secretly) He has told me about his struggles with wanting to be the girl that's inside him but also not wanting to be that. He loves her and wishes she was real but she's not. He said that after keeping it all inside it builds up and then something stressful happens and she ends up coming out and he almost cant control it. He said its kind of a coping mechanism for him. He feels so much torment and shame when he is himself but when she comes out it all goes away. I don't know, when I heard this song last night I was like "HOLY CRAP!!" Almost like hearing my friend tell me how he felt.
  • Judith-ann from SomewhereVermillion represents life and eternity and the color it's self is associated with love, marriage, religion, thus saying... what if he was never talking about a women? What if Corey is talking about love. What if " she's seemed dressed in all of me" could mean love is seen in him, but may or may not actually be there. " Stretched across my shame, all the torment and the pain leaked through and covered me" could mean he struggled with love. " I'd do anything just to have her to myself, just to have her for myself" could mean he would do anything to have real love for once." Now I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do when she makes me sad" could mean that he may not understand how to show love and it makes him feel sad and or depressed. "She is everything to me, the unrequited dream, a song that no one sings the unattainable" could mean that love means everything to him, however he is unable to find it and he can not obtain it." She's a myth that I have to believe in, all I need to make it real, is one more reason" could mean is that to him love is something mythical, a mystery if you will, and to make it an actual thing he needs more evidence." But I won't let this build up inside of me, I won't let this build up inside of me" could mean he is overwhelmed with the thought of it." I catch in my throat, choke, torn into pieces, I won't, no, I don't want to be this" could mean he doesn't know whether to believe it or not and he struggles with the thought of love actually existing and it is turning him into someone he doesn't want to be because he is loosing hope. " But I won't let this build up inside of me, I won't let this build up inside of me" again he is overwhelmed." She isn't real, I can't make her real" could be the frustration and desire for love to be real. I have several out looks on this, however and I could easily be wrong, I just wanted to throw something new out there, a new perspective on things. Please, do not hesitate to share what you think about my option. Thank you for reading. :) It was greatly appreciated.
  • Luke from Manchester, EnglandWhy do Slipknot fans say "stay (sic)" when (sic) doesn't mean sick, it means "to reproduce directly from the original print" (complete with spelling msitakes)?
  • Casey from Mississippi, MsIt's a great song very calming to me, i listen to it before i go to sleep lol maggot lullabys are the best! say sic!
  • Thomas from Degraff, OhI agree w/ Ashley on this one. I am in a situation similar to this right now, only I'm the guy. This person knows how I feel but I know she doesn't feel the same way. I try not to let it get to me, but I sometimes let my emotions get the better of me. I let them "build up inside of me" as the song says.
  • Chris from Spijkenisse, NetherlandsI actually read an interview where he states that this is about his mother.
  • Emily from St. Louis, MoI'd do anything to have her to myself, just to have her for myself implies to me that the song is about a girl that he wants, but cannot have. Trying to pretend she's not real so he won't want her so much. It kind of seems like it's about someone he shouldn't want. So maybe it's girl that's taken alredy or someone who has hurt him before. Take it how you want. Music is my release and it I'll take it to mean whatever gets me by.
  • Jo from Huntly, New ZealandFor me, I think this song is about a male who has exclaimed their love towards the female, but she does not reply to these feelings, making him feel hurt. He tries to stop the pain by blanking her out completely. Stay (sic) Maggots!
  • Dean from Daytona, --This is a slower version of vemilion
  • Ashley from San Diego, CaI don't think this is about unrequited love at all. I can see where one could acquire that idea, but I still don't think so. In speaking in terms of any kind of love at all, I believe that the woman he is in love with is aware of it, for he has told her. Except she doesn't return his love, therefore she is not his, and all it would take for her to become 'real' is for her to say those three words to him. Hence the one more reason. He is confused by her inability to return his love, and he wants to give up, trying not to let this love and all other concomitant emotions build within him because it's pointless. He can't do anything to make him love her. But that is just my interpretation, and it's based off a situation I am in right now, and I would be the woman.
  • Rita from Fresno, CaIt sounds like feelings a man would have for a mistress that he has fallen in love with if he knew he wasn't leaving his significant other. All he needs is one more reason (to walk out on his current relationship). When she makes him sad, he can't show that he's feeling his way because the affair is a secret. Other bits that make me think so are: stretched across my shame, unrequited dream, song that no one sings, unattainable, I don't wanna be this. I'm probably so off but that's what it sounded like to me.
  • Sean from Boston, MaTo me, this song has a dual meaning. It is very metaphorical in a sense. On the surface it is about the unrequieted love he has for a girl. It makes clear reference to her drug addiction in Vermillion 1. The girl he loves is not in love with him. Rather, she is in love with the high she attains from drugs. I am guessing by the way they shot the video, she is a speed freak. This song begins where the other one left off. She is lying on the ground in a dreamlike state. I believe when she is lifted up off the ground, that is meant to symbolize her dreaming of getting high. So basically, she lives in a constant dream. WHen she is awake, she is high and when she is asleep, she dreams of getting high.She is completely blind to the fact that he loves her and would do anything for her. The singer on the other hand only dreams of HER. He seems completely taken by her and yet he regrets it at the same time.This is because he realizes that she will never love him the way he loves her. She is too hung up on getting high. So basically, he tries to deny his feelings for her in an attempt not to feel the pain of rejection. Such a powerful song...Very depressing indeed
  • Jennifer from Brisbane, Australiaone of my favourites ever.. i don't know how it makes me feel directly- i have no i dea of the emotions it's hitting directly- all i know is it is beautiful. my house mates hate this song becuase i play it so much. there is no way i could listen to this song with someone talking to me, it just takes me away from everything to a place where i have no idea of what i want, where i want to be, who i want to be with.

    just a beautiful song
  • Brad from Sumter, ScThe beauty of a song is that it can mean lots of things. Everyone sees the song differently, sometimes your view is similar to what the singer intended while sometimes it is taken in a completely different direction.

    The way i view this song is that it's about a man or a boy who has a girlfriend or a lover and he is in love with her. He wants to do anything to trust her, but he believes that she can't be trusted and he is afraid to love her completely but he still loves her for everything she is. "She's a myth that I believe in, all i need to make it real, is one more reason." He wants to believe her but he needs another reason to believe her. "I won't let this build up inside of me." All the feelings of distrust are building up inside him and it's tearing him apart, and he wants to let it go but he just can't and that's what will be the end of him. "She isn't real, I can't make her real." He is starting to realize that all his feelings of distrust were in the end right, but now he wishes for her to be what he originally though but he can't make her "real."

    Yeah i know i'm totally wrong but it doesn't hurt to try :D
  • Jim from Burnet, TxI relate to this song in real life, and i can understand exactly how this character feels.
    I believe this song is about a guy who wants this girl really bad, but she doesn't want him.
    So naturally I had to learn to play it. In a weird kinda way, it makes a killer twisted love song to play.
  • Alexis from Carterville, IlWhen I first heard this song a few times, I thought it was about a girl he couldn't live without. But, after I looked at it again, I saw that it really isn't about his love of a girl at all. Everything he says can be related to death or his own suicide. For example, "I'd do anything to have her to myself" is saying that he wants death. "She is everything to me, the unrequited dream, the song that no one sings, the unattainable" is saying that it is all he thinks about, it's what he dreams about even though it doesn't seem to want him, and it is unattainable because he is "torn into pieces, I won't - no" or in other words, he is stuck between wanting to but knowing he shouldn't. If you look at the lyrics again, you will see what I mean. I'm not saying the interpretation of him being infatuated with a girl he can't have isn't right, I'm just saying that this works, too.

    She seemed dressed in all of me
    Stretched across my shame,
    All the torment and the pain
    Leaked through and covered me.
    I'd do anything to have her to myself,
    Just to have her for myself.
    Now I don't know what to do,
    I don't know what to do
    When she makes me sad.

    She is everything to me,
    The unrequited dream,
    The song that no one sings,
    The unattainable.
    She's a myth that I have to believe in,
    All I need to make it real is one more reason.

    I don't know what to do,
    I don't know what to do
    when she makes me sad.

    But I won't let this build up inside of me.
    I won't let this build up inside of me.
    I won't let this build up inside of me.
    I won't let this build up inside of me.

    A catch in my throat
    Torn into pieces
    I won't.
    I don't want to be this but

    I won't let this build up inside of me (won't let this build up inside of me) x4

    She isn't real.
    I can't make her real.
    She isn't real.
    I can't make her real.
  • Ryan from Liverpool, EnglandThe song could mean many things such as the dream girl that he wants and saying she isn't real. or it could be that he wants this girl so so bad hes trying to blank her. whats your opions?
  • Azreal from Nampa, Idoh, and the reason that it's on the "Underworld:Evolution" soundtrack is because their love is forbidden. He's part lychan and death-dealer and she is a death-dealer.they're not supposed to mix the species.
  • Azreal from Nampa, Idthis one has helped me to. I have listened to SlipKnoT since they first started in Iowa. they've been my favorite forever and that will never change
  • Mike from Vancouver, Wayea i agree with the first guy it doesnt show in anyway that its about a stalker. Great song btw.
  • Gabreya from Pine Bluff, AkThis song doesn't make sad as much as part 1 but it's still a good song. It doesn't make me sad to the point where I kind of want to cry but it still makes me depressed. This song is just like the first one. It's a about unrequited love like what you guys were saying. Except they're putting it nice and docile in the song. So, calming, too. It's a beautiful song. Most beautiful song Slipknot ever created and sang. I like to hear that extreme rock bands are taking some of their songs nice, slow, lovely, moody, and so sexy. It makes me want to drift off and sleep on soft pillow. But, why on Earth is it on the "Underworld:Evolution" soundtrack? Maybe Selene and Michael are going through the same thing. Just maybe.
  • Vince from San Francisco, CaI think you are absolutely correct Tito!
  • Tito from Eloy, AzActuallly Vermillion pt.2 is about him having a girl that he had and wants so bad but it hurts him cuz shes one that doesnt want him and he would do anything but all he can do is pretend she isnt real that she doesnt exist so he blanks her out...trying to make himself feel better by not letting it get to him..
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