Girl You Know It's True

Album: Girl You Know It's True (1989)
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  • Before Milli Vanilli got to it, "Girl You Know It's True" was a European dance hit from the Maryland-based band The Numarx. Released in 1987 as a 12" single running 7:27, it was popular in German dance clubs, which is probably where Milli mastermind Frank Farian heard the song. The Numarx version is slower with more spacing between the elements, but it's clearly the same song. The original version puts more focus on the story, which is a guy coming to the realization that the girl he's seeing is the one he wants to be with. It includes a bit of opening dialogue:

    Guy: "You mean a lot to me."

    Girl: "I really mean that much to you?"

    Guy: "Girl, you know it's true."
  • The Numarx were made up of Bill Pettaway Jr., Sean Spencer (DJ Spen), Kevin Lyles, Rodney Hollaman and along with their producer Ky Adeyemo, they all got writing credits on the Milli Vanilli hit. Numarx had some local success with dance-rap/electronica tracks in the '80s - their best known song is probably "Rhymes So Def." In a 1997 Vibe magazine story, Pettaway is credited with discovering Toni Braxton when he heard her singing at a gas station in 1990 and then introduced her to people at Arista Records.
  • The German producer Frank Farian created this song using the Numarx track as a guide. He used American singers, since he wanted guys with a feel for the Hip-Hop sound that was becoming so popular in the States. He found three guys who had served on the American Army base in Germany: singers John Davis and Brad Howell and rapper Charles Shaw, and these are the guys who actually perform on the track. Shaw was the one who first spilled the beans about Rob Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan (the faces of the group) not being the voices on the record.
  • The Numarx track was based on a popular beat that originated on a 1974 song by The Soul Searchers called "Ashley's Roachclip." In 1987 Eric B. & Rakim used it on "Paid In Full" and over the next few years it showed up in a bunch of pop songs, including "Set Adrift On Memory Bliss" by P.M. Dawn.
  • Rob Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan were aspiring entertainers who showed up at Frank Farian's office looking for work at the same time he was looking for guys to front Milli Vanilli. The real singers were various combinations of too old, too ugly, or not willing to tour, so Farian decided that Pilatus and Morvan would represent the group, and he created an image for them, dressing them in wigs and biker shorts. The ruse worked a little too well, as Rob and Fab gave the song an intriguing visual element and a video that was so popular on MTV that the network invited them on their Club MTV tour along with Paula Abdul and Tone Loc.

    The "Girl You Know It's True" single sold over 7 million copies, and that kind of money is hard to keep quiet. On the July 21, 1989 stop in Bristol, Connecticut on the Club MTV tour, their backing track malfunctioned, proving that they were lip-synching at live events. This was followed by Charles Shaw, who is the real rapper on this song, going public and revealing that Rob and Fab did not sing on the album. Shaw first talked to the German press, then did an interview with New York Newsday that blew up the story. He claimed he was paid just $6,000 for his rap, and thought he should be paid more for the hit. Shaw stopped talking after reaching a settlement with the producer, which Farian claims was for $155,000.
  • Farian fired his frontmen in November 1990, and they responded by holding a press conference where they played a tape of their singing and brought out out a vocal coach to tell reporters that they really were pretty good singers. At one point, they even sang a snippet of this song at the request of the attending press. They told their story to the Los Angeles Times, where they explained that they were victims of manipulation, and thought they were going to sing when they signed the contract with Farian - not surprising that they missed this detail since the contract was in German, a language they didn't understand. Morvan said "It was like we were trapped in some golden prison."

    Like the Monkees many years earlier, Morvan and Pilatus pushed to sing for real on their second album, and Farian planned to when the story broke. Farian, who owns the group name, released the second album, which was originally titled Keep on Running, as The Real Milli Vanilli in 1991. It featured Brad Howell and John Davis from the first album, but without the visual support from Rob and Fab, it tanked.

    Pilatus and Morvan released their own album called Rob & Fab, and performed on The Arsenio Hall Show, but their album was also a flop and they were never able to regain their celebrity. The duo spilt up, and Morvan found minor success as a solo act, sometimes performing the Milli Vanilli hits in his own voice. Pilatus died in 1998 after overdosing on a combination of drugs and alcohol. He was 32.
  • Frank Farian was the architect of the popular dance outfit Boney M, who had several hits in Europe with "singers" selected for their visual appeal performing in front of tracks laced by Farian. On many Boney M songs, Farian sang some of the parts that were then mimed by the singers in live performances - this is particularly evident on their song "Daddy Cool."

    This lack of authenticity in the world of dance/pop music was not a problem in Europe, and Americans were fine with manufactured groups like The Monkees, The Archies and The Strangeloves (a group of American producers who claimed to be Australian shepherds). Milli Vanilli was different because their act was believable and they became so incredibly popular. It provided fodder for the news media and fueled a debate about what was real in music, and if it even mattered. Suddenly, the age-old practice of lip-synching was on the hot seat with Milli Vanilli personifying the practice. Farian was surprised this was such a big deal. He told The L.A. Times: "I thought, OK, it's just for discotheques and clubs. I never thought it would be a great hit, not #1, not Top 10 in America. And then it was too late and I was too embarrassed to say anything. We sell illusions and they are not reality. That's a good lesson for every kid to learn."
  • Milli Vanilli won the Best New Artist Grammy in 1990. An award Rob and Fab had to give back when it was revealed they didn't actually sing.
  • This was the first single from the album, but it was not the biggest hit. "Baby Don't Forget My Number," "Blame It On the Rain," and "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" all hit #1 in the United States.
  • One guy who emerged unscathed in this whole affair was Clive Davis, who was head of Arista Records. It's highly unlikely that Davis didn't know that Milli Vanilli was a sham, but he still let them get up and accept their Grammy award, resulting in the biggest embarrassment in the history of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences - even worse than giving Jethro Tull the Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance award in 1989. The NARAS responded not by blackballing Davis and Arista, but by teaming up with Davis to host an annual pre-Grammy gala, and lavishing his artists with awards, always with Davis on display. His biggest Grammy years were with Santana's Supernatural album in 2000 and with Alicia Keys' Songs in A Minor in 2002. Whether or not Davis knew about the faux-singing in 1990 was a point of contention, with Pilatus and Morvan insisting he knew at least 6 months before the awards, and Arista's executive vice president insisting they had no idea, saying, "We are merely a distributor of their records."
  • In Germany, this hit #1 and spent 20 weeks in the Top 20.
  • As this song was climbing the charts, two other German music producers were putting together Snap!, which was a similar concept, but with a prominent female vocalist. They also found their rapper (Turbo B.) from the American Army base in Germany, and replaced their female vocalist Penny Ford with another singer for the video for their first single, "The Power." As the Milli Vanilli scandal was emerging, "The Power" was climbing the charts. They had to track down Penny Ford and make sure she was both the face and voice of Snap! to avoid similar problems.
  • At the end of 1990, there was a short-lived cartoon series called Super Mario 3, which was based on the video game. In one episode, an animated Milli Vanilli perform this song to a wildly enthusiastic crowd. What's weird is that even their cartoon versions were obviously lip-synching.

Comments: 26

  • Frank from DallasWhile this song does use the breakbeat from The Soul Searchers' "Ashley's Roachclip" as does Eric B. & Rakim's "Paid in Full" which was released in 1987, "Back To Life" by Soul II Soul does not use the same sample. On the album version that starts as an acapella, the beat that comes in at the end is the opening break from The Honey Drippers "Impeach The President". On the Club Remix and what we hear in the music video, the break is from Graham Central Station's "The Jam".
  • Rd from CanadaInteresting you included Snap's "The Power". The main vocal part: "I've got the power!" was sampled from a Jocelyn Brown acapella version of "Love's Gonna Get You".
  • Cassie from Phoenix, AzAccording to Fab, the incident with the tape malfunctioning wasn't actually a huge deal, but that it made for good drama. He also says that he and Rob were not actually forced to give back the Grammy.
  • Seventhmist from 7th HeavenWhy the nonsense of comparing this fraudulent act with the Monkees? Mickey, Davy, Mike and sometimes Peter always sang, but weren't allowed to play much on their first two albums, which changed when Don Kirshner was booted from the scene.
  • Jason from Auckland, NzActually, Rob Pilatus could speak and understand German. He was raised in Germany and spoke German fluently (this was shown in his "Behind the Music" interview in 1998, just before he died). Fab Morvan was French.
  • Bob from Kingwood, TxThe "N.Y. Subway Extended Mix" version of this contains an alteration of the "Ma ma se, ma ma sa, ma ma coo sas." chant from Cameroon native Manu Dibango's 1972 song "Funky Soul Makossa."
  • Eric from Bend, OrSongFacts says Shaw was the one who first revealed that the face of the group were not the voices on the record. However, I seem to remember seeing a story on the news on TV back in the day saying they were revealed to not be the real singers when they were performing a concert and their record skipped, or there was some other audio problem in the middle of one of their songs.
  • Eric from Bend, OrI remember when Milli Vanilli were exposed for lip syncing. But how can a tape skip and repeat the same thing over and over? I can't picture a tape player malfunctioning that way.
  • Tom from Chicago, Ilfrauds or not this tune is a classic
  • Joe from Bellingham, Wawhat's weird is that a week before the incedent, someone had burned a milli vanilli record after playing it backwords and hearin "lies" said twice (happened in New Zealand) and this song reached #2 on April Fools day, and when the song skipped the word that was missing was "true" weird huh?
  • Beau from Phoenix, AzI don't care who actually sang it, this is cheesy 80's pop... and I love it.

    Rob and Fab wanted to sing on the record, but they were told not to. They wanted fame, so they just went along for the ride.
  • Brandon from Peoria, IlThe real singers were old overweight black dudes...not exactly the kind of performers that this country wanted to see a the time. If they did it now, they could become someone. I mean, if Taylor Hicks won American Idol and a Rappin' Granny was the judges favorite on America's Got Talent, than these old overweight black dudes that donated their vocals to Milli Vanilli could be stars.
  • Clarke from Pittsburgh, PaNever mind that Fabrice Morvan (whom I met once) and Rob Pilatus didn't sing it - it's still good, catchy pop music, and that's what counts. In the end, the song stands on its own musical merit.
  • Neil from Middlesbrough, United StatesBoyzone Dancers (Keith 'N' Shane) did a RAP cover version after BOYZONE split up.
  • Paul from Galway, IrelandBoney M's lead male singer wasn't singing and the band said so too. It didn't matter the guy who sang got paid and every one was happy. The stayed around for a good while. Milli Vanilli why didn't you do that. it could've been so much easier
  • Camille from Mesquite, Txi agree with really is a shame what these guys went through.from what I hear they were forced to lip sing by there contract and were trying to get there manager to let them use there own vocals before "the incident" ever occured. can you imagine being on top of the world one day then having all of it taken away the next? It must be horrible to be all over tv and have millions of fans and then because of one mistake your the laughing stock of the whole after being humilated like that they didnt have anything to fall back on. they came to america to be either singers,dancers, or models because that's all they knew and thats what they were good at. what were they supposed to do afterwards when the whole world hated them? I don't know how even Rob lasted as long as he did...
  • Re from Chicago, IlPersonally, I've been a fan of 'Milli Vanilli' - and still am - for the best part of some 14 years. Ever since I first watch them perform onthier videos (even if they didn't really sing) on MTV, way back in early 1989. To me it didn't really matter that they weren't really the voices or talent behind the music, their performances on the videos and live-concerts was enough to sell as many records as they did while they were at the prime of their careers.
    I'm personally proud to own all three offical 'Milli Vanilli' albums = the European released "All or Nothing/Girl You Know it True"(1988),"All or Nothing"(The Remixes-Import Album), "The Remixes-Album"(1990 U.S.Version), 'Real Milli Vanilli:'"Moment of Truth"(aka.'Keep on Running'-2nd Album).
    PLUS, the Bonuses = 'Rob & Fab's(1992-3) album, and 'Try N'B's:' "Sexy Eyes"(1992),'
    I also have my own private CD-RW, 'Best of -Greatest Hits' compilation of 'Milli Vanilli' songs. If you are a die-hard fan of the original 'Rob & Fab'(aka.'Brothers of Soul')the sound, or image, I recommend you track down and listen to the single: "Keep on Running" from the "Real Milli Vanilli" album = The Moment of Truth. This last single was, and still is 'da bomb!
  • Dave from Cardiff, WalesI really enjoyed Milli Vanilli's music at the time, but tragically they imploded when it was revealed that in fact the band werew a sham who had nothing to do with their records
  • T from Youngstown, Ohyah' I remember "the big" rumor going around at the time of the fallout was "that Eddy Grant" was the singer on all the tracks - Did they ever expose who was the vocalists on this great pop hit recording ??? like em or not - those guys were huge !
  • Christopher from Greenfield Center, NyI like this LP. I don't care who it was doing the actual singing. The music is great. It is sooooo '80's
  • Edward Pearce from Ashford, Kent, EnglandIronically this reached its peak American chart position of #2 on April Fool's Day in 1989.
  • Nick from Arlington Heights, IlThe whole Milli Vanilli saga took a tragic turn when Rob Pilatus committed suicide in 1998 at the age of 32.
  • Ryan from Salt Lake City, UtWhat was sad was Fabrice could actually sing!!!!
  • Annabelle from Eugene, OrI laughed my head off when the tape skipped! I believe they were actually using an LP Record.
  • Marlo from Perth, Australiaits sad what these guys went through. i hope fabrice is not still depressed. i hope he's on his feet again
  • Brian from Mayfield Heights, Ohall i have to say is " girl you know it's...girl you know it's...girl you know it's...girl you know it's...girl you know it's..."
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