Dogs Of War

Album: A Momentary Lapse Of Reason (1987)
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  • The "Dogs Of War" are corrupt politicians who who use their military might. It is probably a reference to United States president Ronald Reagan, who was dealing in covert war with countries like Nicaragua contras and others. >>
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  • Vanilla Fudge drummer Carmine Appice played drums on this track. In a Songfacts interview, he explained: "I came home one day and there was a message on my machine from [producer] Bob Ezrin. He said, 'Hey Carmine, I'm in the studio with Pink Floyd and there's a track that's just screaming for some Carmine fills.' I called him back, I said, 'Where's Nick Mason?' He said, 'He's here, but he's a bit rusty and everybody wants a bit of a change, so they're bringing in guest drummers.' So I went down and did it, it was pretty wild. Nick was there. I said, 'Why aren't you playing?' He said, 'Well, I've been racing my cars, my calluses are soft...' Bob said they were just looking for a little different inspiration from the drumming. All I did was fill up a 24-track with drum parts and they edited it all together. I didn't hear the whole drum part until the album came out. Every time I'd ask Bob, 'What about it?' he'd have one word: 'Daring.'"
  • David Gilmour wrote this song with Anthony Moore, who was in a band called Slapp Happy. Moore has writing credits on two other songs on the album: "On The Turning Away" and "Learning To Fly."
  • Carmine Appice was one of several outside musicians who appeared on the A Momentary Lapse Of Reason album, the first one without founding member Roger Waters. After recording their 1983 album The Final Cut, Pink Floyd could no longer function as a cohesive unit - the relationship between David Gilmour and Roger Waters was particularly acrimonious. Waters tried to dissolve the group, but Gilmour and drummer Nick Mason (an original member) won a legal challenge to use the name. Many Pink Floyd stalwarts worked on the album, notably producer Bob Ezrin, who worked on their landmark album The Wall.
  • In the book MTV Ruled the World - The Early Years of Music Video, Carmine Appice explained why groups like Pink Floyd don't get on MTV more: "It got ridiculous. It was always the same bands. You'd see the same however many there were, 20 bands. Def Leppard, Judas Priest, Ratt, Motley Crue, Journey, Foreigner - it was always the same bands. They never gave airplay to the other bands after a while. I remember when it first started, it was always these guys calling my manager, saying, 'When Carmine's in town, can he do an interview?' So they used all of us to help get it going, but then when it got going, it was like, 'Oh, forget about you guys.'"
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Comments: 25

  • Krishen from Mount Laurel, Nj@Michael -- "Several Species..." has the benefit of it being fun to listen to Waters making all those sound effects organically, which is a rather impressive feat. "Dogs of War", on the other hand, is an ugly bore.
  • Charlie from Nyc, NyScott Page plays the sax in this video from nassau county vetrans memorial coliseum for delicate sound of thunder tour.
    Charlie Muller Bronx NY.
  • Mark from Fort Wayne, InWaters - Gilmour, whatever. They are both more talented than I could ever hope to be. I think the song is about mercenaries, arms dealers and the people who thrive on world conflict. Packs of wild dogs feeding off the worlds unrest. "With no cause they don't discriminate". No morals, no affiliations, fighting for or supplying anyone who can pay. Not a particularly uplifting but unfortunately all too true song.
  • Natalie from Rotorua, New ZealandI think that the sound of this song isnt that great but the lyrics are amazing. "dogs of war" - have you ever seen a dogfight? Dogs wont stop fighting until one of them is dead. This is just like war. We wont stop fighting each other until the other side is dead. And whens that gonna happen? Never. This song is meant as a realisation, for us to realise that war no longer a form of defense but a pointless act. The dogs are also referred to as mecenary soldiers, and dominance and power. In war nobody comes out with their hands clean. No one. The biggest crime is knowing something is wrong and not doing anything about it.
    David uses an extended metaphor "hell opened up and put on a sale" and "dealing in death is the nature of the beast" both of thesd refer to hell or the devil.
    In the chorus Gilmore says "one world, its a battleground" which refers to the government training people to kill. If you train someone to kill then theyre gonna kill. This also is an extended metaphor refering back to how dogs fight to the end. In the first stanza he says "web we weave". When dogs fight they weave in and out of eah other.
    This information is all my opinion anyway. Who knows, i could be wrong
  • Lester from New York City, NyThe live version on 'The Delicate Sound of Thunder' is GREAT.
  • Oldpink from New Castle, InUh, no.
    This album came out in 1987.
    However, Dave is not nearly as much of a political firebrand as Roger, and this one is more ambiguous than one specific to Reagan.
    It seems to be directed at militarists in general.
    Getting back to the song, this one is one of only two Floyd songs that I absolutely despise, the other being the 1968 "It Would Be So Nice."
    Oh, and the sax from Scott "The Mullet" Page makes this awful song all the worse.
  • Martin from Babylon, Nyfirst the song isn't about reagan he didn't become pres until 1980 album was released in 1977,
  • Rod from Logan, Njpinkfloyd never died yhey were allsome when they started and awesome foreever
  • John from San Diego, CaI've been listening to Floyd since the early days and think this is a great song and album. F'ck Roger Waters, Floyd moved on without him.
  • Michael from Oxford, -Yes, "On the Run" is worse than this.
  • Bryan from New York, NyA decent song, it's got an interesting vocal sound. Personally, On the Run is my least favorite Floyd song.
  • Syla from Small Town, WiObviously there are lot of Pink Floyd old schoolers here and I heard all their music. I love this album and listen to it on the way to work. I could hardly call it the worst of anything. Truly, no one on this board could ever do any better. It probably just offended them for some deep seated reason even they can't figure out.
  • Michael from OxfordAnyway, COME ON! There's no doubt on what is the worst Pink Floyd song of all time: Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict.
  • Michael from OxfordI wasn't born until 1991 so I can't know for sure, but I gather that back in 1989 this was voted the worst Pink Floyd song ever because it's Gilmour failing to write a Waters-style anti-war lyric.

    This seems to be rather the Pink Floyd equivalent of the Beatles' cover of Mr. Moonlight. (*) A lot of people hate it even though there's little or nothing by way of a good reason. If there is a slight problem with this song it's that it just takes a shade too long to get into gear.

    (*) In fact it seems like A Momentary Lapse of Reason is the Pink Floyd equivalent of Beatles for Sale all round!
  • Damien from Edmonton, CanadaSeriously, Floyd did die when Roger left. TDB was OK, but It didn't help the fact that Pink Floyd were dying.
  • Michael from O'fallon, MoPink Floyd didn't die when Waters left. He already had already murdered it during production of The Wall. David was just doing his best to revive it. Roger crushed both Mason and Wright's spirits, and Gilmour was not capable of resuscitating them for this album.
  • Bill from Erie, Pa"A Momentary Lapse of Reason" was basically a David Gilmour solo album. All the traditional floyd elements are missing, from Roger Waters' lyrics to Rick Wright's keyboards and Nick Mason's drumming. Floyd really did die when Roger Waters left.
  • Evan from Flower Mound, Txto ben, the sax is played by dick parry who also played the sax for dark side of the moon~money and us and them, and for wish you were here~shine on you crazy diamond, he also plays for division bell, pink floyd's final album
  • Phil from Niagara Falls, Canadaan update to "dogs"?
  • Ash from Charleston, WvNo, this is not the greatest song ever. But I have to strongly disagree with Matthew of Germantown, MD. A Momentary Lapse of Reason is a terrific album. Take, for example, the songs "One Slip" and "Sorrow," and the instrumental "Terminal Frost" is fantastic.
  • Ashley from Moncton, CanadaYeah, it's not that great of a song, but don't trash it completely. I suppose I like it okay. The vocals are mediocre, but the lyrics aren't terrible, they're still better than a lot of comercialized crap you'd hear from someone like Lindsay Lohan.
  • Stefanie Magura from Rock Hill, ScI might be outnumbered here but I actually like this song, and everything about it too! No it isn't one of there best, but it isn't totally awfull. if you think about it, the subject matter is pretty typical of pink Floyd songs.
  • Matthew from Germantown, MdThis is undoubtedly the worst pink floyd song there is. The lyrics are terrible, the vocals are mediocre, the music just reeks of bad songwriting. This can be said about much of A Momentary Lapse of Reason. The Dogs of War is on the Delicate Sounds of Thunder and I honestly believe it to be the worst track on any album.
  • Ben from Aguadilla, United Stateswho plays the sax?
  • Liquid Len from Ottawa, CanadaThe lyrics are a poor man's version of Roger Waters sort of commentary. The best part of the song is the time signature change where the sax solo kicks in. Neat production in this song all around.
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